Sour Grapes

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  Why do JW's pussyfoot around saying what Armegeddon really is?

  by Sour Grapes in

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  jw's make armegeddon sound so sterile with statements like:.

  "when god brings an end to this old system.

  " "when jehovah.

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  JW's make Armegeddon sound so sterile with statements like:

  "When God brings an end to this old system." "When Jehovah

  intervenes in mankinds affairs." "At the conclusion of this system

  of things.", etc, etc, etc.

  Why not just say: When Jehovah slaughters every man, women, and

  child who is not a Jehovah Witness. When God destroys 99.9% of

  the worlds population. When God kills everyone who does not believe

  in Watchtower doctrine even though they babies, children, or have

  never even talked to a Jehovah's Witness.

  Why don't they just tell the truth?

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  What's with all the 'Imminent' nonsense?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  2. beliefs

  could it be that the proximity of 2014 is at the heart of it?.

  i have no contact with jw's - except on this board - but my wife does at times with her family.

  imminent is the cry of the sky for the jw's it seems.. i recall the years leading up to 1975 with a lot of that sort of thing.

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  We are in the last seconds of the last minutes of the last hours of the last days of the last

  weeks of the last months.

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  New here

  by Heartbreaker in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have no idea what i want to convey in words here on this site, and have surprised myself by even joining at all.

  i intended just to read, and get a few pieces of information, and now am a member, and spend many hours looking through posts old and new alike.

  i am a current jw, born into it, and lets just say i'm in my thirties, female, and a mom of more than your average kids.

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  Welome Heart. It helps to talk about your pain. You are among friends here.

  We will not pull you into the back room and ask the personal questions that

  elders like to ask. I was an elder at one time and am ashamed of the pain that

  I have caused others.

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  What will the JW religion be like in 2015?

  by JimmyPage in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  over 100 years into the reign of christ and six more years of damage from the internet.

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  what do you envision?.

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  I don't think that anything will change. How many stayed after being promised that

  1975 will be the end? That was 34 years ago. My mom believed the end was coming

  in the early 1960's and now she says "just think how much closer we are now than

  then."

  As long as there are people who need structure in their lifes, people who can't make

  a decision, people who like being told what to do, people who have disablities that

  will be gone in Paradise, people who lost loved ones and want to see them again on

  earth, people who have family members who are JW's, there will remain the JW religion.

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  Lurkers and Jehovah's Witnesses- The WT Lied to you about " Generation "

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this has been re-hashed many times here.

  in great detail with quotes from former watchtower articles, etc.

  i'm going to cut to the chase and just make this brief and direct.

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  Thanks Flipper. I was promised that I would not finish high school.

  Well guess what? I did finish hight school. My children finished high

  school and now I have two grandchildren in high school. But just

  think how much closer we are NOW to the end then when these

  promises (lies) we made to us poor suckers.

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  Even in their prayers they prove that they are a cult.

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at the meeting sunday the brother giving one of the prayers said.

  "that we than you for your organization because people who are outside.

  of the congregation are corrupt and wicked.".

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  At the meeting Sunday the Brother giving one of the prayers said

  "that we than You for your organization because people who are outside

  of the congregation are corrupt and wicked."

  At my employment I deal with hundreds of people who are not JW's

  and I don't know of one who is corrupt or wicked. Most of them are

  God fearing people who go out of their way to help people.

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  Confessed my Doubts to my Wife

  by cantleave in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well - i today i had the opportunity to tell my wife i no longer believe in the things that i have spent my life immersed in and that i didn't want my life run by 9 geriatrics in brooklyn.. her reaction was understandable her first questions was "what have you been reading"?.

  i didn't mention this site but told her i was shocked by something i heard regarding the wts's ngo status with the un, dissapointed by the new light on the generation and disturbed by the flip flopping on blood fractions.

  i explained how these things were at best hypocritical and at worst have meant some people have lost their lives unnecessarily because of the societies previous position.

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  I have had similar dscussions with my wife and she just gets mad at me.

  However she is slowing down in her activity and her conscience does not bother

  her like it used to. Any one with common sense can see that the WTBTS's

  teaching are not based upon the Bible.

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  When will they realise that the bus isn't coming?

  by eyeslice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was still a kid and living at home at the time, and so that must have been well over 30 years ago, that i heard ron drage (now a senior member of the uk bethel) say "if you are waiting at the bus stop it, is better to be 10 minutes early rather than miss it".

  what he was referring to of course was the then then 1975 issue; in other words armageddon has arrived yet but it just round the corner and we are a little early for it.. i don't know what brought this to my mind the other day but i got to thinking, surely if you are waiting for a bus and you get there 10 minutes early and it doesn't then turn up, how long do you wait?

  10 minutes, 15 minutes, half an hour, an hour, two hours?

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  Nice illustration. It shows the folly of living ones life around

  a date that never comes.

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  TURN IN YOUR DAMN TIME - IT'S THE 5TH...

  by tresdecu in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hate turning in time, even though it's phantom.

  do you think they phase this out soon???

  especially now that they spend so much time doctoring up the stats to make them look good.. anybody out there with some inside info?.

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  The Witchtower Babbel and Trick Society will always want the pubs

  to turn in their time. If turning time in was not a requirement there

  would be a tremendous drop in the door to door work. All that I

  hear at the KH is "I am low in hours", or "I have to get my time up",

  or "how much time should we count for yesterday".

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  watch an example of signals going on all around you....you're not in on it

  by ninja in

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  http://cache.gettyimages.com/xd/2045-61.mov?c=newsmaker&d=877eefc4dacd560b51123940768c98ceec7c5022fb410d56&k=2&v=1.

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  pish